Taken from JRE #1798 w/Michael Shellenberger:
https://open.spotify.com/episode/6kc8Usp2Iv8gGrheicdpOM?si=e62207450ffe4927

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Taken from JRE #1798 w/Michael Shellenberger:
https://open.spotify.com/episode/6kc8Usp2Iv8gGrheicdpOM?si=e62207450ffe4927