Debra Jordan-Kauble was the central figure in Budd Hopkins’ classic book Intruders: The Incredible Visitations at Copley Woods, as well as its 1992 TV miniseries adaptation, Intruders, using the pseudonym “Kathie Davis” to protect her family. In 1992, she revealed her true identity and co-authored, with her sister Kathy Mitchell, Abducted: The Story of the Intruders Continues. That book was republished in a new edition in 2021. Her Facebook page is https://www.facebook.com/deb.kauble
Here she reviews the horrific incident that occurred in 1983 when a UFO actually landed in the backyard of her parents’ home, leaving marks on the lawn as well as terrified neighbors. This incident led to many physical and emotional problems. She also explains strange, ongoing interactions with non-human entities, as well as potential government surveillance. Looking back over many decades, she believes that these experiences have been beneficial in her life.
00:00:00 Introduction
00:07:28 The story in Intruders
00:19:47 Restoring lost memories
00:30:28 Emotional recovery
00:41:31 Budd Hopkins’ impact
00:49:59 Government surveillance
00:58:17 A hybrid breeding program
01:06:52 Two different kinds of dreams
01:19:05 Ongoing communications
01:26:45 Conclusion
New Thinking Allowed host, Jeffrey Mishlove, PhD, is author of The Roots of Consciousness, Psi Development Systems, and The PK Man. Between 1986 and 2002 he hosted and co-produced the original Thinking Allowed public television series. He is the recipient of the only doctoral diploma in “parapsychology” ever awarded by an accredited university (University of California, Berkeley, 1980). He is also the Grand Prize winner of the 2021 Bigelow Institute essay competition regarding the best evidence for survival of human consciousness after permanent bodily death. He currently serves as Co-Director of Parapsychology Education at the California Institute for Human Science.
(Recorded on May 31, 2025)
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