The Psychology of Shame with Gerald Fishkin

Gerald Loren Fishkin, PhD, is a clinical psychologist. He is author of The Science of Shame and Its Treatment. He is also author of American Dream, American Burnout; Police Burnout: Signs, Symptoms, and Solutions; and Firefighter and Paramedic Burnout: The Survival Guide.

In this interview, rebooted from 2016, he notes that shame is a deep-seated affect that is located deep within the mammalian portions of the brain. He makes a point of distinguishing between shame and guilt, insofar as toxic shame can be completely crippling at an emotional level. It is typically the result of early childhood trauma. Toxic shame also results in abusive and unrelenting forms of self-talk. Fishkin maintains that neither positive affirmations nor cognitive behavioral therapy are adequate for dealing with toxic shame. However, he offers a compassionate approach with a variety of processes that have shown themselves to be effective.

New Thinking Allowed host, Jeffrey Mishlove, PhD, is author of The Roots of Consciousness, Psi Development Systems, and The PK Man. Between 1986 and 2002 he hosted and co-produced the original Thinking Allowed public television series. He is the recipient of the only doctoral diploma in “parapsychology” ever awarded by an accredited university (University of California, Berkeley, 1980). He is also the Grand Prize winner of the 2021 Bigelow Institute essay competition regarding the best evidence for survival of human consciousness after permanent bodily death. He serves as Co-Director of Parapsychology Education at the California Institute for Human Science.

(Recorded on July 10, 2016)

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