Sam Altman: OpenAI, GPT-5, Sora, Board Saga, Elon Musk, Ilya, Power & AGI | Lex Fridman Podcast #419
Why this one hits different
Four months after being fired and rehired as OpenAI's CEO in the space of a week, Sam Altman sat down with Lex Fridman to talk about it, and about the race to artificial general intelligence.
Who is Sam Altman?
Altman is the CEO of OpenAI, the company behind ChatGPT, GPT-4 and the video model Sora. In November 2023, OpenAI's board briefly removed him, a crisis that dominated tech news until he returned days later.
What's on the table
The episode opens with the board saga and Ilya Sutskever, then covers Elon Musk's lawsuit against OpenAI, Sora, GPT-4, memory and privacy, the rumored Q* project, the leap to GPT-5, the reported push for trillions of dollars of computing power, Google's Gemini and AGI. Jump to any topic with the chapter list.
Why it's worth your time
It's the most detailed conversation Altman gave about the board crisis in its aftermath, and a snapshot of how OpenAI's leader was thinking about AI's future in early 2024.
Quick answers
- When did Lex Fridman #419 come out?
- March 18, 2024.
- Does Sam Altman talk about being fired from OpenAI?
- Yes. The board saga is the first topic of the episode.
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TRANSCRIPT:
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EPISODE LINKS:
Sam’s X: https://x.com/sama
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OpenAI’s X: https://x.com/OpenAI
OpenAI’s Website: https://openai.com
ChatGPT Website: https://chat.openai.com/
Sora Website: https://openai.com/sora
GPT-4 Website: https://openai.com/research/gpt-4
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OUTLINE:
0:00 – Introduction
1:05 – OpenAI board saga
18:31 – Ilya Sutskever
24:40 – Elon Musk lawsuit
34:32 – Sora
44:23 – GPT-4
55:32 – Memory & privacy
1:02:36 – Q*
1:06:12 – GPT-5
1:09:27 – $7 trillion of compute
1:17:35 – Google and Gemini
1:28:40 – Leap to GPT-5
1:32:24 – AGI
1:50:57 – Aliens
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