Jaron Lanier: Virtual Reality, Social Media & the Future of Humans and AI | Lex Fridman Podcast #218

Jaron Lanier is a computer scientist, composer, artist, author, and founder of the field of virtual reality. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors:
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OUTLINE:
0:00 – Introduction
1:39 – What is reality?
5:52 – Turing machines
7:10 – Simulating our universe
13:25 – Video games and other immersive experiences
17:12 – Death and consciousness
25:43 – Designing human-centric AI
27:17 – Empathy with robots
31:09 – Social media incentives
43:29 – Data dignity
51:01 – Jack Dorsey and Twitter
1:02:46 – Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies
1:07:26 – Government overreach and freedom
1:17:41 – GitHub and TikTok
1:19:51 – The Autodidactic Universe
1:24:42 – Humans and the mystery of music
1:30:53 – Defining moments
1:41:39 – Mortality
1:43:31 – The meaning of life

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