Taken from JRE #1702 w/Laurie Woolever:
https://open.spotify.com/episode/6NLVspKgSTLlMCDcFW5NX1?si=Z8N1Ti3eQpST2BxKS2v0qA&dl_branch=1
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Taken from JRE #1702 w/Laurie Woolever:
https://open.spotify.com/episode/6NLVspKgSTLlMCDcFW5NX1?si=Z8N1Ti3eQpST2BxKS2v0qA&dl_branch=1